"I think there's a yearning from many countries, particularly in the Global South, to look at alternatives, alternative ways of doing business, alternative ways of moving away from the dollar, and generally just from the hegemony of Western powers. I think that's why more than 30 countries are interested in being part of the BRICS grouping in Kazan," he said.
"So great progress is being made under the umbrella of BRICS. It is moving towards a world that is not more divided but actually is coming together. And I think this is why Western powers see the BRICS grouping as such a threat," the expert noted.
"And that's why there's this emphasis in saying that we need a new system of promoting our local currencies when we trade with each other and also finding alternative payment systems, because even the Swift system has been weaponized because Russian banks and Russia generally are not allowed to use the international payment system," van Heerden explained.
"Just recently, there's been discoveries of huge gas deposits here in South Africa, and Russia, with Gazprom [a state-owned Russian energy company], is already working with one of our entities here to try to optimize the gas reserves," he gave an example.